Re:Insanity, presumptions, karate, and sugarcoating

“…the awful pessimism modern science shows toward the human spirit…. To me, this is insane.”

I wouldn’t say insane; rather I’d say it’s presumptuous, arrogant, ignorant, and foolish. Roger Penrose, who I’d contend has a far better appreciation and understanding of “modern science” and mathematics (and their current implications and limitations) than most, certainly more than your typically mechanistically thinking biologist/Darwinian, doesn’t seem to convey or possess that “awful pessimism.”

Like after taking just a few karate lessons a guy will know just enough karate to get his ass kicked, I’d say most biologists/Darwinians know just enough science to declare their unwarranted pessimisms.

However Todd, your view that “…meaning is not located simply in an individual brain but in relations and interactions between us,” appears to be an attempt to gain “meaning” through “complexity” and/or “chaos.” It doesn’t really work. So what if “The mind is actually extended beyond the individual brain, in a logical rather than paranormal sense, and this is why human values can transcend individual reproductive survival”? One could say something similar of termites. And I’d say your blather is nothing more than sugarcoating.

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Odd equation, by Todd, 06/16/04 Re:Odd termites , by Fred H., 06/17/04 Re:Odd termites , by A rhetoric lesson for Fred, 06/19/04 Re:Odd termites , by Fred H., 06/19/04 Re:Odd termites , by Todd, 06/21/04 Re: Missed intention, by Fred H., 06/21/04 Materialism vs.Atheism, by Todd, 06/22/04 Re:U.S. conservatism?, by Fred H., 06/22/04 Cry for help, by Fred H. , 06/22/04

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