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    Re:Exposure Therapy better than EMDR for PTSD
    Thomas Landry · 04/16/03 at 9:41 PM ET

    Most of the usual options for ignoring research that doesn't support EMDR is thrwarted in this study. But you do do your best to defend EMDR in light of this study, Ricky, and for that you deserve a tip of the hat. The usuals here seem to be reluctant to jump into this one for good reason!

    But let's cut to the heart of your argument: Your only real defense here is that not all studies have reached these conclusions. But this is weak at best as you gloss over a very important point: not all studies are created equal. This is one of the most solid RCTs done to date, that has the advantange of including vocal EMDR proponents, and completely fails to support the "evidence" from less rigorous studies and those from folks who have a strong conflict of interest. For example, compare the methodology of this study to the ones that you co-authored that support EMDR and you will find a marked discrepancy.

    What many here seem to be bored of are the same old apologies for EMDR.

    Replies:
    • Re:Exposure Therapy better than EMDR for PTSD, by Karen, 04/17/03
      • Re:Exposure Therapy better than EMDR for PTSD, by Andy Card, 04/18/03
    • Re:Exposure Therapy better than EMDR for PTSD, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/21/03
      • In response to Ricky, by Cahill, 04/21/03
        • View from 30,000 feet up, by Sandra Paulsen Inobe PhD, 04/21/03
        • In response to Shawn, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/22/03
          • Not quite so fast, by Cahill, 04/23/03
            • That's my point too, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/23/03
              • Re:Here's the point, by Landry, 04/23/03
                • Re:Here's the point, by Sandra Paulsen Inobe PhD, 04/24/03
                  • Re:Here's the point, by Realist, 04/24/03
                  • Different methodological positions, by Cahill, 04/24/03
                  • Re:Different methodological positions, by Realist, 04/24/03
                  • Re:Different methodological positions, by Sandra Paulsen Inobe PhD, 04/25/03
                  • Re:Here's the point, by Carol Ann Rowland, MSW, RSW, 04/24/03
                • Re:Here's the point, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/25/03
                  • researcher allegiance, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/25/03
                  • Re:Here's the point, by Landry, 04/26/03
                  • Re:Here's the point, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/28/03
                  • Something unique happening in EMDR?, by Cahill, 05/01/03
                  • Re:Something unique , by Fred H., 05/09/03
                  • Let's leave innuendo out of the discussion, by Cahill, 04/26/03
                  • Re:Let's leave innuendo out of the discussion, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/28/03
              • Devilly & Spence, logical analyses and other stuff, by Cahill, 05/01/03
                • Re:Devilly & Spence, logical analyses and other stuff, by Realist, 05/02/03
            • What is EMDR?, by Ricky Greenwald, 04/23/03
              • Re:What is EMDR?, by Cahill, 05/01/03

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