Dan, I respect you and your knowledge. I believe I know where you are comming from and I also respect that. However, I did not ask you to read a book. If you feel my postings are substandard and not worthy for this forum please Email me at raycom@uscom.com and I will demure from further postings. One final thought, Bruce Springsteen (a rather well known contempory poet//recording artist) recorded a song entitled Jungleland which contained the refrain "the poets down here have nothing to say...they just stand back and let it all be"................From "downunder" in America..........Ed