Neat Post-Quiz Thought!

    Shame and Affect Theory (Nathanson)
    • Quiz Time by Jim Duffy, 4/29/97
      • The Answer to: What is Perhaps the Deepest Sickness of the Human Spirit? by Jim Duffy, 5/7/97
        • Post-Quiz Thought by Vick Kelly, 5/7/97


    Neat Post-Quiz Thought!
    by Jim Duffy, 5/8/97

    Vick, I got a big laugh out of your saying thank heavens I'm the one who responded to my own quiz. Some quiz, right? More like a whatever.

    I saw what you meant right away about isolation being like the isolation Erikson refers to with respect to the conflict with intimacy in adolescence. That's an interesting similarity considering that Tomkins was apparently thinking of the elderly as being especially susceptible to this type of isolation. It makes me think, as I often have, that Erikson's stages are a bit too tidy--or that Tomkins may have suppposed that there are many elderly who have had a hard time getting much further along the Eriksonian stages than early adolescence. I can recall vaguely at the moment there is philosopher author I like who is convinced that a very great number of persons remain more or less stuck throughout life with many of the challenges of adolescence.

    It's important for me to keep in mind how shame often does not exist is pure form but mixed with other affect. That was a good reminder. And about laziness being a term, like other judgmental terms, that induces shame... Neat point, and I have a qeustion. I know shame and distress-anguish often occur together, but could you describe a situation in which it would be correct to say there can be shame without distress-anguish. What would be an example?

    Thanks again, Vick, for this terrific forum and your generous, enlightening, and often entertaining postings.


            • Correcting a Blunder by Jim Duffy, 5/8/97
            • Shame without Distress-Anguish by Vick Kelly, 5/12/97
              • Thank You, Vick, for a Really Clarifying Reply by Jim Duffy, 5/13/97

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