Wow, Margaret, thanks for such a wonderfully encouraging and clarifying reply! I found your own hypothesis about being within a society that shames us for having feelings to be most helpful and, I thought, right-on. I know the experience of de-toxifying shame and then being able to step outside the bubble. When I first found myself able to do this (i.e., de-toxify shame by understanding it as fundamentally an anti-light placing one in darkness, as it were), it was exhilarating to be less shamed about shame. Your experience with others eventually coming around somewhat and with graduate students getting more eager was most encouraging for me to read. Your words "don't give up" were as delightful to read as my favorite music is soothing to hear, for such is the joy of diminishing distress-anguish. Thanks for your really great reply.