First of all, no, I have not read anything by an author named Faludi. My comments where made simply from my personal observations. When I said that "someone has to do the dirty job", I meant that anyone male or female, who stands up to discrimination no matter what way the discrimination is perpetrated does "the dirty work". In this way if men stand up to women who behaves in a demasculating way also gets to be the heroes. As far as men and abortion, I hear you. Men suffer if a woman gets an abortion, when they would have prefered to have the child. I do NOT think they suffer "as much" as a woman who wanted a child but feels forced by necessity to have an abortion. This is because there is a physical component in this for a woman. Either way, of course that is a complicated discussion, and I refuse to actually take it further than this online. I personally dont observe many gong ho, demasculating women anymore. That is what I meant when I said it evens out. The initial backlash of women standing up for themselves was necessarily harsh, and did become demasculating for a while. Today I think things have evened out a lot. The men are much less discriminating beasts, and the women are much less demasculating matrons. Da Friendly Puter Tech
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