Thanks Reto for sharing this with us. It sure does sound as though he is refering to the testing process. I have seen this happen in my own supervisions and I wonder if others have as well? I have thought about writing an article about it and I know that Marco (in Italy) has already started some work in this area. If anyone is in Zurich -Reto has started a clinic there for psychotherapy! It is nice to know people all over the world.