Re: EMDR is science but Brian has a short memory

Brian, nothing can add substance to this thread, since you keep up your old refrain: "Because eye movements are the only, and I stress only, part of EMDR that is truly new." This is a fully inaccurate statement as the unique combination of elements in EMDR, including the use of "essential elements which contradict exposure theory" has been well documented in numerous posts above--and in published reports by Pitman, Boudewyn, and Hyer--all longterm exposure therapy researchers. All of this has been discussed endlessly above.

Further, since these elements make a distinct contribution (contributions fully discussed in Dr. Shapiro's 1995 book), of course an appropriate sample size must be used to assess the additive effect of the eye movement. It is not a 0-sum situation. And this issue has been dealt with ad nauseum as well in previous posts--even referencing a component analysis (Renfrey & Spates) with a diagnosed population that found with the eye movement: 85% no PTSD in three sessions. Without eye movement: 50% no PTSD in six sessions. Certainly large differences in outcome and number of sessions -- but with only 7 people in each cell not enough power to be statistically significant. Want to keep conducting "science" this way? According to foremost research design experts, such as Kazdin, fifty participants per cell is the appropriate number for component analysis. Want to keep supporting bad science because of your subjective view of a method? Isn't it antithetical to the whole scientific process to throw out basic scientific principles of investigation in order to advance your own subjective point of view?

Since you did not address the scientific issues you were challenged on below--nor did you support your previous inflammatory rhetoric--don't you think its time to just call it a day?

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