Behavior OnLine EMDR Forum Archive, 1999

    Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?
    Tired of this whole thing · 4/27/00 at 4:00 am ET

    Brian, I fail to see the validity of your comment.
    Although i have my own reservations about EMDR, none are for the reasons, claims, statements, "facts", quoted research, etc. etc., that you have said on this forum. Nothing has convinced me that EMDR is just a unnecessary add on to CBT and its success is based on "group think" phenomena.

    You state in your last post, "The whole procedure is predicated on finding a traumatic memory to "work on" in session."
    As a one-time patient of emdr, i know that that is true, however it is as though you are taking it out of context to prove your point. There is more to it than that. The way you have stated it, could be interpreted by some that if no such memory exists, so then "we'll find one."

    You continue:
    "...it would not seem unusual to me that these strong demand characteristics by the therapist may lead some clients to "produce" a memory in session (perhaps based on wanting to please the therapist)"
    It is a risk in any therapeutic relationship, regardless of what type of therapy is being used, of clients wanting to please the therapist. In my own experience, my problem was not in fact trying to produce a memory, but allowing the therapist to believe i had resolved the issue, or "come to terms with it." (or whatever you want to call it) I found myself doing this in all therapy situations including EMDR, as well as CBT.
    Of course this is my own personal experience, but I am finding your attacks on emdr somewhat groundless. You talk about the criticisms, research, etc all against emdr and yet each and every type of therapy is subject to the same criticisms, etc.
    Your arguments are getting rather tedious and irritating. You are beginning to sound like the only reason you post is to get a reaction from someone, like you need attention.
    Anyway, that will be the last you hear from me. Maybe I am being a bit harsh, and I appologize, but get over yourself will ya.
    PS. I am sorry for being angry, but im just tired of it.

    Replies:
    • Well Done Brian. I think we have finally found a potential gap in this therapy. Let The Debate Begin, by Civil Rights, 4/27/00
      • Re: Well Done Brian. I think we have finally found a potential gap in this therapy. Let The Debate Begin, by Sandra Paulsen, Ph.D., 4/27/00
    • Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?, by Layperson, 4/27/00
      • Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?, by Robert P. O'Brien, Ph.D., 4/28/00
        • Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?, by Brian G, 4/29/00
          • Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?, by Sandra Paulsen, Ph.D., 4/29/00
            • Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?, by Brian G, 4/29/00
              • Re: Signature , by Curious, 4/30/00
              • Beyond a Helpful Skepticism --, by Sandra Paulsen, Ph.D., 4/30/00
                • Re: Beyond a Helpful Skepticism -- Indeed, by contributor, 4/30/00
                • Re: Beyond Advertising, by Brian G, 5/1/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by Sandra Paulsen Ph.D., 5/1/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by Brian G, 5/1/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by Sandra Paulsen, Ph.D., 5/1/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by contributor, 5/1/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by Brian , 5/2/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by M.C., 5/8/00
                  • Re: Beyond Advertising, by Brad Alford, Ph.D., 5/14/00
                • Re: Helpful Skepticism , by , 5/9/00
    • Re: Lying--An common EMDR problem?, by Don, 4/29/00
      • On Distortions, Biases & Many Voices, by Sandra Paulsen, Ph.D., 4/29/00

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