Phil, You present a lot to digest here. I would like to zero in on one aspect you present as part of five constructs which you suggest define Gestalt. When you state "a respect for phenomenological process" do you mean the way in which the individual percieves/processes/integrates and retains information? If so, isn't the concepts of the I-thou and the I-it actually part of this process? In addition, , would a Gestalt theorist suggest that by furthering ones knowledge and understanding of phenomenological processes one develops a better insight into oneself and thus a better understanding I-It and the I-Thou? Finally, is the concept of the I-It similer or identical to the concept of the In-Itself and the I-Thou similar to or identical to the concept of the fFor-Itself as proposed by Sartre? I need a place to hang my hat. ........Ed.........................................................PS, On first reading the Gestalt Theorist I felt that they were kind of "slippery". Now, Iam beginning to see that this "slippery" perception may be due to the fact that Gestalt is a more fluid body of thought that takes into consideration the dynamics of human condition over time (developmentally).