Gosh - I took the week off to play and came home to an amazing discussion! My thanks to all of you for taking the time to really hone in on CMT and think about ways to improve it. I do think we do a good job but feel it is always worth the effort to critically examine the underpinnings of our assumptions and theory. I am interested in Vic's revisitation to the case of Kathy as a vehicle for our learning. I haven't seen the substantial differences yet, rather I feel that you have understood the case much in the way a CMT therapist would approach it- but it is possible that as we hear more we will find the areas of difference. Jim you do an excellent job of representing Joe's ideas. I wish you both (Doug or Donald too ) come out in March for our week long workshop. We would have a blast!