Jim, ..Brian,s OK! He's a man for all seasons. It's not easy living downunder or so Ive been told. I still feel there is a reason for depression. Think of depression as a void or lack of feelings, if you will. If we are overdosed (overwhelmed) by feelings wouldn't depression be a sort 0f a break? Wouldn't it give us an opportunity to sort of "regroup" cognitively and ,hopefully, move on with a renewed sense of strength. I know Iam rambling here but I think what we call depression is a very human emotion. Iam still exploring this area of human emotion (or lack thereof) myself and trying to better understand it........I don't see it as negative in itself.......what do you think?......Ed