Re:NLP

Perhaps the person who cited Rosen's paper is not aware of the custom on this forum that professionals identify themselves?

I have no opinion on how Shapiro invented/discovered EMDR, or specifically re whether she got the eye movement method from John Grinder or from a walk in the park. John Grinder may say one thing, Shapiro may say another. EMDR is certainly different than NLP. So if the method did originally come from Grinder, he failed to follow up and publish or develop it.

I do have an opinion on Rosen's paper, which is that it may have had too small an N. In his sample, no participant had an experience consistent with Shapiro's description of EMDR's discovery. This led him to question Shapiro's description.

However, in my own experience (clinical practice and public speaking), I have come across a few (3) people over the years who have reported such an experience. One woman called me and said, "I knew that that treatment [EMDR] in the newspaper article was good, because that's what I do when I've had something really bad happen and I get upset: I move my eyes back and forth." Two others have also told me that they self-soothe by moving their eyes back and forth. Each of these people said that they figured this out on their own, no one showed them how or what to do.
If these people are telling the truth (and I have no reason to doubt them) then it may be that only 1 person in a couple thousand (give or take) might spontaneously discover some reduced-distress benefit to eye movements. This would make the likelihood of Shapiro's "origin" story difficult to confirm with a study like Rosen's. However, the experiences related by these three individuals supports the plausibilty of Shapiro's story.

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